Pat McAfee looks back on interviewing Vince McMahon on his Pat McAfee program.
The former NFL star and frequent WWE collaborator got a chance to sit-down with the former CEO back in 2022, which was shortly before WrestleMania 38, a show that McAfee ended up wrestling on. While appearing on the SI Media podcast McAfee spoke a great deal about his time in WWE and his relationship with McMahon.
Looking back, McAfee says he was not nervous at all to interview McMahon when he appeared on his show.
No. When I was doing SmackDown, I started learning the business a little more. Obviously, as a fan my entire life, I understood and thought I knew what was going on, but once you start meeting people and kind of learn about people and the process of it all, I’m genuinely a curious person too, so I would just go ask Vince questions. ‘Why do you guys do it this way? Why do you do this?’ I feel like he’s naturally a teacher. I feel if people approach him and ask him questions, he wants to tell people why he did what he did. The way he goes about telling people, we’ve all seen, certainly an interesting thing and he’s certainly made mistakes as a human, I think he would recognize that and we all recognize that.
McAfee later explains the types of questions he was asking and how the information could help him grow his own program.
Whenever you’re talking about business acumen in American business humans in history, one of the best feels for business and what the future looks like. I just started asking him questions and I think he respected the questions I was asking because a lot of questions I was asking was for my own business, my own show, he knew about that. I’d ask him stuff about things we were thinking about doing with partners and sponsors and exclusivities and it would like take him back to 20 or 25 years ago. We, naturally, built up a little bit of a conversation almost every single week at SmackDown because I’d be going through a lot with my show, and at the same time, my SmackDown thing is growing, and there are two different silos. My show is sports, football, wrestling, but kind of similar because they’re both entertainment, but it wasn’t a lot of crossover. Some of our people won’t ever watch wrestling, some of the wrestling people came over, but it was certainly two different real worlds that were happening.
The interview with McMahon ended up doing huge numbers of McAfee’s show. Overall, he says he was very pumped for the opportunity.
I just started asking questions about decisions I would have to make. I think he appreciated it, I think he respected the questions I was asking, and anytime you talk to anybody, I learned this with Peyton, I was very lucky to be teammates with Peyton Manning. These are humans, at the end of the day. You have to talk to them like they’re humans. Soon as you start treating them like they’re not humans, they’re going to not act like humans. If you get showed up in front of somebody, they’re going to immediately shut down and not really talk to you. If you talk to people like they’re humans, they appreciate that. Him blessing us, he flew in for that. Didn’t know if it was going to happen. It was reported, it was talked about, day of though, before we went live, did not get a confirmation. I just assume he’s coming. Then we get a text, ’30 minutes out, 15 minutes out.’ Plane, SUV, all by himself, no security, walks right in, sits down, does an hour and 15, hour and a half, comes out, takes a picture, says thank you to everyone, back on the plane, back home, probably had another 12 hour day after that. I was pumped more than nervous. I knew that he doesn’t talk to a lot of people. I, being a wrestling fan for a long time, have obviously followed his trajectory business-wise on top of everything else. I felt pumped for the opportunity, for sure.
McAfee recently signed a huge new deal with ESPN. You can read about that here.
(H/T and transcribed by Fightful)
